Perimiter Security System Needed

by Erich

One thing that I have been looking to set up for my home is a perimeter security system. Although we do have an alarm system with security monitoring, in many ways I feel that if we are home when the system goes off, there really isn’t much time to prepare ourselves if there was a determined perpetrator (just think about the Sharon Tate murders).

On top of that, since I live in semi-rural suburbia and back in the woods a bit, my plot of land can be accessed from practically any direction. Although my long driveway is a great defensive choke point for automobiles coming up to my property, if someone is on foot there are no good choke points that would restrict their direction. This lack makes it a security nightmare.

Given this security issue, I’ve been looking into purchasing some kind of device that can provide 360 degrees of security which will act as an early-warning to potential home invaders.

If money weren’t an option I’d purchase a high-end underground fiber-optic perimeter that not only alerts me to the exact location of an intruder but would show me through infrared cameras who or what it is. Unfortunately, tens of thousands of dollars is a bit out of my price range. To keep it within budget I’m looking more into the lower hundred range.

One of the security systems that I have been looking into is a passive infrared MURS (multi-use radio service) based system made by Dakota Alert. I’ve seen this system promoted on survivalblog.com as well as other sites around the web and it seems to be getting pretty good reviews. It’s also fairly inexpensive, so it could be a great potential option for me.

Now that you know what my situation is, what I’m looking for is some thoughts from you guys on this. Perhaps one of you has a perimeter system in place that you could provide feedback on. And when I do finally make the purchase, I’ll be sure to do a review on it once it’s in place.

So if any of you have any ideas on this or experience with the MURS or similar system I’d love to hear it. You can leave a comment below the article on this blog, send me a note through my contact link, or reply to the newsletter if you’re a subscriber.

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46 Comments»

Comment by DPM
2011-07-03 14:29:37

I’ve got a similar layout, except even more rural than what you describe. I have an 800′ driveway, and the house is not visible from anywhere except the air. But I do border a state park, and we’ve had hunters and the occasional hiker traipse through the yard and down our driveway. A little disconcerting, to say the least.

I do have a driveway sensor, but I had to make a choice between a magnetometer sensor, which would detect only vehicles, and a PIR sensor, which detects anything warmer than the background. I went PIR, and now I know when every deer, fox, or largish cat goes down the driveway, in addition to pedestrians and vehicles. If I had it to do over again – and I might still do this – I’d fence a majority of the property, at least around the house, put a driveway gate in to control vehicles, and replace the PIR sensor with a magnetometer. I’d also throw in an intercom and camera so I can see and speak with the driver to decide whether to open the gate.

Maybe someday – that’s a fair amount of cash to lay out, and higher priority projects await funding. But I wonder if there isn’t a poor-man’s version of the underground fiber-optic system you described. The place I work takes security seriously, and there’s an 8′ high chain-link fence with razor wire at the top around the entire perimeter. There are small boxes in the center of each section of fence, each connected to the others with a cable. I’ve always assumed these are vibration sensors, but never asked – the Security people are not too talkative about the arrangements. There might be some way to mimic that functionality on the cheap – a simple wire fence with home-made sensors similar to the “tilt” sensor on a pinball machine. I’d imagine you’d get a lot of false alarms, though.

Comment by Tactical Intelligence
2011-07-04 07:32:26

DPM,

Thanks for the great feedback. It does sound like we have a similar arrangement. Which PIR system did you end up purchasing? The only one that is currently in my price range are those sold by Dakota Alert.

Have you looked into the driveway sensors sold by murs-radio.com? They have both PIR and magnetometer sensors that can be used together as a complete system. If you are getting a lot of false alarms across the driveway, for around $170 you can set up magnetometer-based probe that can be buried underground. It may help reduce the false alarms you are getting, but then again your driveway would be a “perimeter leak” for human traffic. Like you said, I think the fence option would be most ideal.

I’m also considering fencing but it is a bit out of my range as well for now (and like you, there are other more important purchases on my list). If you do decide to go with fencing in the future, I know that the microphonic systems (what your work probably has) are actually fairly low-cost and work extremely well (especially those with digital-signal processing capability).

Thanks again for the great feedback.

 
 
Comment by Dustin
2011-07-05 13:38:40

Containment fencing differs from defensive perimeter…

In military parlance, an obstacle is not an obstacle unless you can observe it and provide direct fire support to maintain it.

If you just want to keep people out, a couple strands of barbed wire and some posted signs should do the trick.

Take advantage of the natural terrain, consider trespass threats to be on foot, vehicle (2,3,4,6-wheeled), or horseback. If you want to create more of a barrier, electric fencing can be incorporated. Ditches (to prevent vehicular approach) can be created and observed, abatees can be cut, Undergrowth can be encouraged (think Brer Rabbit!) to slow/prevent dismounted threats.

For perimeter security, ring-fencing is sort of ineffective – your best bet is to block the easy avenues of approach, channel outsiders to a choke point (like a hardened, gated entry), and support your egress plan.

Surveillance and early warning must be part of your plan as well – trail cameras (IR, motion-activated) can help, and some outdoor camera systems can me viewed on a home PC.

2011-07-06 06:44:23

Dustin,

In an ideal world I would have a gated entry like you describe. But with the lack of funds currently, I’ll have to do with at minimum an early-warning set up. As the funds increase, I can bootstrap from there.

Given the amount of large trees on my property, my driveway is definitely the choke point for vehicular traffic, so like you said I’ll need to focus in on buttoning that down as the next step.

Thanks for the great comments.

 
 
Comment by Ray
2011-07-09 10:51:11

If you live anywhere where the temps get over 95 degrees they become useless. I live in Texas and I have looked into many IR systems, so far none have passed the test. Even putting them in the “bird house” will not work. When it gets hot the IR can not tell what is body temp and what isnt. Everything seems “hot” to the system and often will give many false alarms.

2011-07-09 11:14:28

Good to know Ray. Here in the Northeast we do get an occasional day over 95, but for the most part we are under that temp.

Where did you get that temp? Does the manufacturer state that or is it from personal experience? I’m just curious as to if I should worry about the high eighties etc.

 
 
Comment by Jason
2011-07-09 20:28:13

I’ve got a simple motion sensor hooked by the door on my porch, that sends wirelessly a tone to an annoying, squawking box. I imagine you could purchase a few of these cheap little things and if strategically placed enough, put maybe 4 to 5 sensors around the house, overlooking the paths of least resistance and label the annoying squawking boxes according to which belongs to which sensor and where it is. A little light lights up on it to show which it is, so you would be able to distinguish. But my favorite criminal deterrent is to 1) Start the magical powers of rumors be letting one big mouth in the neighborhood know we are armed to the teeth in my household, and 2) Let them know that, despite multiple firearms, I’m too poor to be worth the effort of robbing, anyway! I’m sure that part doesn’t apply to someone living in your position, but there are a lot of people living a couple miles from the ghetto as am I and they might want to take a page from my book 😛 But seriously, most animals including humans take the path of least resistance, so maybe you could camo some cheap motion sensors and tack ’em to some trees overlooking these areas.

Comment by Tactical Intelligence
2011-07-11 17:06:47

Thanks for the ideas Jason. What brand are the motion detectors that you have and do you find they trigger a lot of false alarms?

 
 
Comment by Jason
2011-07-09 20:30:50

Another note. I am very sure that you are aware that the simpler things are, the better, in most cases Just wanted to supplement your thinking process. If I had a house in the woods I would go as far as string with a bunch of cans, bottles and other noisy things XD Maybe not, wife would kill me. But seriously, it’s simple, cheap and effective.

 
Comment by Ed
2011-07-10 14:41:05

That sounds crazy but I’ve got to tell you…it is effective. When I was a younger man, I ended up homeless in Baltimore. I befriended a small group of others in the same situation as I and we band together. We found ourselves looking for a place to “call home” and found seclusion under a bridge by the city jail by the railroad tracks. We camoed the place by placing thrown out venietion blinds to the trees around our “camp” and place fresh cut branches in them. We also used the empty cans but with stones in them, attached to each other with fishing line, across the paths that led to our camp. Twice we were alerted to the uninvited, once it was the police looking for a robber of a 7 Eleven, which we helped to catch ( the cops didn’t know the tracks like we did). You just have to make sure you drain any rainfall after it rains.

Comment by Tactical Intelligence
2011-07-11 17:10:24

Not crazy at all. Although it’s low budget, in certain circumstances (EMP attack) where technology is not available, that would be an effective early-warning device.

 
 
Comment by Jason
2011-07-10 21:29:22

The man said cheap, can’t get much cheaper without losing effectiveness 😛 Rocks are a good touch, of course not too many. By the way, I have been talking about your site non stop to friends and on Facebook and such. This site as well as the fact that you respond to fans have both surprised me greatly and I feel that everybody I know could come on here and find something that relates to them. I don’t know if more traffic helps you any, but I am quite certain you’re gonna get it.

Comment by Tactical Intelligence
2011-07-11 17:16:59

Thanks Jason. Appreciate the support

 
 
Comment by Jason
2011-07-10 21:31:49

By the way, that’s a crazy story. I bet it felt good to help the police, in that position. It’s hard to distinguish homeless people from lazy people, and most people just assume all the people holding cardboard signs asking for money are lazy. But we have one guy here in Ft. Wayne who sticks around Wal Mart holding a sign saying he has no food, but he has a dog right beside him every time. . . always figured if he got hungry enough, he DOES have food. . . not only that, the Wal Mart has a HUGE supply of cattails right next to it.

 
Comment by Jason
2011-07-11 20:55:56

Driveway something. Driveway safe. I dunno. They used to trip constantly, but that’s cause they were near a window and have a wide view range, and were picking up cars on the street and people on the sidewalk. So we put little walls of cardboard on each side, protruding out so it constantly views them and only detects what is in front. Just like annoying backyard floodlights that are on sensors, gotta play with them and adjust them to your liking and their position. But, you can’t beat cheap.

 
Comment by Jason
2011-07-11 23:32:43

Okay, Wal Mart is selling an updated version, apparently, and it’s still relatively cheap. Driveway Patrol. . . I was kinda close, at least halfway 😛 http://www.walmart.com/ip/Trademark-Global-Driveway-Patrol-Infrared-Wireless-Home-Security-Alarm-System/15603354 Also, if you want to also get an alarm going that might scare off intruders, but can also be tripped by deer and such, you can use tripwires and camo with these, which can be found much cheaper in dollar stores and such. http://www.walmart.com/ip/Trademark-Global-Mini-Window-Alarm/15603463 Sorry, I know nothing of HTML. I used to know how to post links using HTML, but forgot.

 
Comment by Jason
2011-07-11 23:39:03

Okay, odd, I posted a link to the sensor on here. . . eh, stupid laptop. It’s called the Driveway Patrol, and wal mart is now selling a more updated version. Also, you can go to a dollar store and pick up for real cheap these little window alarms, they stick together with magnets and when the magnetic bond is broke, you get a high annoying sound (I know, one is on my basement, it’s loud and annoying enough to keep me out of my own basement :P) The ones from the dollar store can be turned off with a little switch on the side, no biggy if your intruders don’t know where it is or if you rig something up, but the more expensive at Wal Mart have a key that turns it off. I figure if you rig some up with tripwires, you may have to deal with deer time to time, but when a human hits it, he would be surprised, long enough for you to hear the sound and maybe for him/her to run away. A combo of the two would be awesome. Another trick that’s always helped us is using those fake security cameras up on the house, but since then they’ve been replaced with real ones. Note, we don’t have much money at all, but keeping your eyes peeled and staying out and about, you can get a lot of good stuff for cheap or free. Try dumpster diving.

2011-07-12 12:36:13

Thanks Jason. I’ll check that out.

 
 
Comment by Deacon
2011-07-12 10:47:08

Most infrared system parameters are based on human body temp: 98.6 F. Depending on the tech your system uses, 95 F and higher may simply register as “high” or “hot” on the scale. Background readings where the ambient air temp is over 95 F can mask a person moving across the system’s sensors. Also, if there is a backdrop that your sensor is pointed at (concrete wall, house, cliff, etc) or if your senor looks out over a road, the radiant heat that is emitted even after sundown on a 95 F + day can be enough to mask a human presence.

Higher dollar systems are designed to differentiate +/- 2 degrees, sometimes less.

Work-arounds are dependent upon the terrain you are setting up; if a sensor projects towards a waterfall or cave opening, or the side of a hill that never gets direct sunlight, you might be ok as the background would theoretically have a lower heat register.

Hope that helps

2011-07-12 12:37:30

That helps a lot Deacon, thanks. I’ll need to contact some of these manufacturers to determine what the temperature threshold for their product is.

 
 
Comment by DPM
2011-07-15 07:10:16

The brand of PIR sensor is Reporter, but I believe the name has changed since I bought it. I’ve seen it in the Northern Tool catalog under another name I can’t recall right now. Works well most of the time, except for the falsing. I’ll agree with another poster that the reliability goes down as the temperature goes up. It helps to have the sensor looking at a background that will stay relative cooler than everything else – in my case, it’s pointed across the driveway at a large, cool stand of trees. But over 95 degrees and all bets are off. Even in the winter it may miss a car that hasn’t warmed up yet.

Another idea for cheap fencing – living hedges. There are some great, useful plants that make impenetrable barriers, at least for foot traffic. A blackberry thicket is scary thorny, self propagating, and delicious to boot. Black locust trees have some of the scariest dang thorns I’ve ever seen, they grow fast in almost any kind of soil, and when they grow up, the wood is about the best fence-post wood you’ll ever find – it’ll last 20 years or more in the ground with no treatment.

Osage orange is a great choice for a living hedge, too. You’ve probably seen one of these at some point – in the fall, it has large yellow-green fruit about the size of a baseball, with wrinkles that make it look like a little green brain. Planted at 1 foot spacing, it’ll grow into a thorny, dense fence about 4 foot high in four years or so. Properly maintained, it’ll grow dense enough to keep out deer and predators and keep livestock in, and you can harvest the wood in sections every 10-15 years and get 4000 of the best fenceposts available per mile of hedge.

BTW, I’ve been looking for a source for Osage orange fruit so I can start my hedge. If you’re anywhere in the northeast and know of an Osage orange tree, please post I’ll gladly come to you and help clean up when the tree starts dropping fruit.

I really like the idea of a living hedge, but I agree that it’s not an obstacle unless observable and supportable. But it is nice to know that you can cheaply deter at least some predators with something that perpetuates itself.

Comment by Tactical Intelligence
2011-07-15 07:39:49

DPM,

Thanks for the update on the manufacturer, I’ll be sure to check them out. Thanks as well for the great tips on natural fences. I really like the idea about blackberry bushes since they are also a food source.

About osage orange. As a hobbyist bowyer (one who makes bows) I’m familiar with the tree since it’s one of the best woods for bows hands down. Unfortunately I’ve not yet seen it here in the Northeast (at least where I live that is).

If you’re interested, I’ve been able to find some seeds online for a reasonable price at these two links:

http://cgi.ebay.com/100-ct-Osage-Orange-Tree-Seeds-Horse-Apple-Bug-Repelent-/220753059141?_trksid=p3284.m263&_trkparms=algo%3DSIC%26its%3DI%26itu%3DUCI%252BIA%252BUA%252BFICS%252BUFI%26otn%3D21%26pmod%3D220702494265%26ps%3D54

Osage Orange Seeds

 
 
Comment by DPM
2011-07-28 07:17:22

Good tip on the seeds. I’ll look into it if I can’t find a live specimen. When I lived in Rochester, NY, there was one on the University of Rochester campus. A little far to drive, so I spoke with a horticulturalist at the UConn extension service, and she found an osage orange tree listed on the “tree walk” on the Storrs campus. I checked it out last fall and I couldn’t find anything looking like an osage orange tree in the area described. I might try to find the tree again before classes start in August – plus there’s the famous UConn Dairy Bar!

There’s also supposed to be one on a private residence in the town of Glastonbury, CT, but I haven’t tried that yet. Most people would be happy for you to cart away a couple of buckets full of “horse apples” in the fall – helps them with clean-up. The instructions I had was to mash up a bucket full of fruits to make a slurry, which gets poured into a trench along the line you want to hedge. So I need a bunch of horse apples.

 
Comment by Al
2011-08-02 07:22:03

I’m happy with the Dakota Alert system, never had a problem with it not going off in high temps – but after a heavy rain it will sometimes not alarm until it dries out a little. Very few false alarms. MURS freqs are dead around here, so we bought some Puxing 777+’s (VHF) off EBAY and programmed them to monitor the Dakota Alerts freq too. We use them as mobile/handhelds, much better range than the Dakota Alert handheld. Have the Dakota Alert base station attached to a MURS FireStik antenna on the roof (25′), range is about 5 miles to the Puxings. We put our near-useless, 3/4 mile range, GMRS/FRS radios in the (metal) garbage can to pass out for the neighborhood watch should that be necessary. Replacing the Dakota Alert base station with a Yaesu FT-2900R VHF is next on the list. The Puxings and the Yaesu can xmit/receive all freqs between 136-174MHz, and MURS is about 151Mhz so MURS-tuned antennas sit just about in the middle. Programmed the Puxings to scan local police/fire/EMS, and can monitor NOAA, Skywarn, 2m ham, and ARES/RACES/EOC freqs. Once I get the Yaesu (75/25/10/5 Watts) added to the system I’ll be very satisfied with the overall commo solution. Hope that helps. Al (email not valid)

Comment by Tactical Intelligence
2011-08-03 08:04:26

Al,

Thanks for the great comments and ideas about expanding the Dakota system.

When you say that the Dakota “sometimes not alarm until it dries out a little”, is it getting wet inside the housing or is the moisture interfering with the sensor? I’m just wondering if there is a way to mitigate that.

 
 
Comment by Al
2011-08-04 07:29:27

Not certain what the cause is, suspect it’s the high humidity interfering with the electronics. Water isn’t getting inside the case directly, but there is some condensation. It doesn’t false alarm, just soemtimes fails to go off at all. Sometimes instead of not functioning at all during/after a heavy rain, it will only xmit a series of ‘clicks’ when it goes off instead of the full “Alert Zone 1” message. It sounds similar to someone quickly hitting/releasing the xmit key repeatedly for the span of the normal message (about 10 secs). Only happens on the one that is outdoors (on a tree), the one in the unheated garage doesn’t exhibit the problem. I swapped them around with the same results.

It doesn’t require anything except some time and dryer conditions and it starts working correctly again, and it’s been doing this since day one and it’s over a year old now.

We’re very happy with the overall system. Getting all the pieces isn’t cheap, but combining security and reliable short-range communication in one package was worth it for us. Al

 
Comment by DPM
2011-08-09 06:40:34

As luck would have it, I found an online database of notable trees in CT as http://oak.conncoll.edu:8080/notabletrees/index.jsp. It’s searchable by both common and scientific names, and list quite a few large Osage Orange trees by town. Unfortunately, there’s no specific location, so the next step is to contact the tree warden in town to see what he or she knows.

Comment by Tactical Intelligence
2011-08-10 03:34:45

Great investigative work DPM. If you end up getting a location I’d love to hear about it.

 
 
Comment by Mark
2011-08-26 13:51:43

The living fence is a great idea and one that has been tried in battle conditions. Remember after D-day the allies got bogged down in hedgerow country? Creative use of natural resources is cheap and effetive and doesn’t raise questions from neighbors or authorities who may be curious as to what you need an alarm for. In a shtf situation, additional low-tech items can be added on, such as cans and trip wires.

 
Comment by Mike
2011-11-10 13:15:16

Do you have or have you considered getting a couple dogs? Not big scary dogs for defense or deterrence, but smaller “yappy” dogs with great ears and a strong sense of territoriality? Shi-tzus were actually bred for pretty much this purpose (if I remember correctly) and other small breeds of terriers, spaniels, etc. might also be effective as an “alarm dog”. Used correctly, such dogs can provide an easy to detect early warning with an effective range measured in at least the tens of yards.

Cost wise, suitable dogs could likely be located without much research at any number of local outlets for short money and you’d be doing a good deed while also gaining a loyal family pet/companion.

It’s a little off your original topic, but the ends could be very similar to what you’re trying to accomplish in a primary or supplementary role.

Comment by Tactical Intelligence
2011-11-14 03:32:56

Mike,

Thanks for the great advice. I have considered dogs but at the current time it is not a possibility. I agree that they are an excellent early warning “device” 🙂

 
 
Comment by Wm White
2012-01-18 11:50:41

OK, we’re talking CHEAP. Window alarms you can find any where. 2 piece. Attach one to frame, one to window, touching. When the 2 seperate, alarm goes off. Better models are very loud and have “chime” setting.
Attach alarm horizontally nearby w/ actuator laying on top, loosely electrically taped (thread?To hold in place against wind or vibration.)to alarm unit. Fishing line to actuator. Line tripped, 2 pieces seperate, alarm goes off.
Works in woods too. Details can be expanded upon by a little imagination. Like the alarm units are WHITE. Duh. Another reason for electrical tape. Ect.

 
Comment by cl
2012-04-27 05:22:18

Hey guys great topic.. depending on your situation the best watch dog would be geese. loud as hello tough as nails and when they beat you with their wings the wings are strong enough to snap the human leg. Not good if you have children though. the goose egg is very tasty and a great all around member of a small self sustainable farm homestead or property. Throw them in a cage and take them with you if you have to bug out.
I already saw a post on the dog.. although I dont think a small rescue dog would defend you much the noise he makes will give an alert. They have also been known to wake the family to save them from a house fire..
The WELL TRAINED GUARD DOG. can be expensive.. but a great force multiplier anearly warning system and the family defender if your away.. There is a great kennel overseas that doesnt rip you off and offer several different breeds of family oriented professionally trained guard dogs at a cost of less than half of what they charge for guard dogs here in the state.. No its not a fly by night operation they have been involved in training personal protection dogs and military perimeter dogs for more than 35 years.. How ever at the moment I cant recall the name. I’ll look it up and get back to you.
Then there is the dog that does not need to be trained. The TIBETAN MASTIF. This is believed to be the oldest dog blood line in the world which has been tracked over 5,000 years. This dog is as friendly as they come to the imediate family. Your children can hang off them like a jungle gym or use them as a pillow. They are extremely loyal to the imediate family and will fiercely protect it.. naturally its in their blood lines.. more so than a German shepard or a Rotty. They were used for this specific purpose for 5000 years protecting the temples of Tibet.. Chain on a post outside the traveling merchants tent.. They are natural preditors and like to hunt and kill birds and maybe a cat or two.. haha.. just kiding. They were trained to track hunt and kill humans and then given to the emporors of the Asian dynasties as gifts.. They will watch any stranger like a hawk while they are in your home simply because the dog instictivly knows it doesnt belong there.. they may not let you bring the stranger into the home so you may have to close the dog up in a bedroom do the same for large gatherings / parties.. but again to the imediate family they will not harm them at all. They believe they are part of your family just like your children. I would advise against a rescue of this type of breed if the dog is more than a few months old. It is best to raised this dog from a pup with the family.
They are a long haired hypoalergenic dog. Which means its one of the very few dogs suitable for people with alergies. The dog also only sheds once a year so a house covered in hair is not a problem. It is a country dog and not meant for apartments. The breeds they call lion heads have a Maine around their head like a male lion and will scare the crap out of you just looking at it.. They also have a breed called the tiger head and they do not have a Maine around their head..
They require a large fence or kenel area with 6 foot tall strong fencing.. they must always be fenced or on a leash. If they break out of your home they might not return.. although they believe they are your loyal companion. they also believe being 20 miles from home is just a short distance from your side.
For the best bloodlines and size you should buy from an Asian kenel you can find one on puppy find dot com. They are expensive from Asia around 5000 dollars. But I would take that dogs loyal fierce protection over one of my neighbours with a gun in any crappy shtf situation you could think of that occurs on my property..Unfortunatly I dont have neighbours with 10 years of combat under their belt.

2012-04-27 11:00:51

Great comments cl! The Tibetan Mastiff looks like a pretty sweet dog albeit a bit expensive. For those that can afford one, they certainly seem to be a great choice.

 
 
Comment by moller
2012-04-28 13:05:57

does a system exist of a battery operated wire that could be strung along the fence and would give out a loud alarm if it was cut? Cutting through the wire fence is the usual form of entry in Panama

Comment by Tactical Intelligence
2012-05-05 10:44:02

moller,
I’m not sure exactly what you mean here. Do you mean a single wire stretched across the fence? What would prevent the perpetrators from cutting around the battery operated wire?

 
 
Comment by cl
2012-06-07 01:16:41

Well Ill agree $4000 dollars for a dog isnt cheap but its cheaper than a well trained guard dog. Typical cost of a well trained guard dog is well over $12,000 in the u.s. $8000 from eastern European countries. The dog is a perimeter alarm as well as a defense system to an intruder in your home. Takes time to get out of bed and grab your Louisville. Slugger or your shot gun. Other options would be to adopt a few Rottweilers from a rescue. They have evaluation systems to make sure your rescue is not a ticking time bomb.. I will be purchasing a new property way off in the country on 50 acres that will be my first purchase adopting 3 to 4 Rottweilers. I found a few that were raised with children and families and were surrendered for reasons such as moving or health problems of the owner. They will be child safe. A response time from the state police or county sherif would be over 20 minutes in the wee hours of the morning could be close to an hour depending on where they are responding from. Personal security is needed with or without. A shtf situation.

 
Comment by Mike
2012-06-25 19:22:05

TI,
Did you ever purchase a system or get anything set up? Our neighborhood has been hit twice by prowlers. Been thinking of a IR motion sensor set up of some sort.
Also, on a slightly separate subject….I’m going to get new entry doors for my house. Been thinking of doors that swing outward so they are not as easily kicked inward. Any thoughts or suggestions regarding entry door security.

Comment by TI
2012-06-25 21:04:02

Hey Mike,

Thanks for the comments and for checking up on me.

Actually we are in the process of moving so all of these plans are currently on hold until we are settled in the new place.

– Erich

 
 
Comment by Mike
2012-06-25 19:23:53

oh BTW great job on this site, very informative! I’ve passed it on to my friends.

Mike

 
Comment by ron
2012-10-21 19:00:36

hello folks. ive enjoyed all your comments and would like to be part of them, my fiance and i are buying our first home in a rural area, securityis a huge concern of mine , we dont have alot of money at all. local trucker and nursing home care giver. our house sits alone on a 1.24 pretty square open acer. (my spelling is bad sorry) withno immediat neighbors to whatch over us the house is VERY volnerable specially from the back side.Im thinking,visible security cameras that record, motion operated flood lighting. ive learned alot on here, so far that would work for me like the window two piece alarm switches on a trip wire. Ron in Washington state.

 
Comment by Schneb
2013-02-03 10:16:05

interesting puzzle of a problem–seems like it depends on one’s particular budget and goal(s). If you want to deter casual vandals/thieves, or if you want to know that someone’s approaching from a particular direction (and respond somehow).

Letting scrub brush grow and encouraging varieties with thorns–if raspberries, etc there’s a dual purpose use/result–might be a start. Maybe a few ‘danger: poison ivy’ signs (or something like).

Keeping the budget low but going a step further: spot lights with motion detectors are pretty cheap if you can get power out to the fixtures. Maybe there are even solar versions? Or the motion-activated cameras that hunters use to monitor game activity in certain spots? If rigged to something other than turn on lights or snap a pic, they would alert you but not the approaching person.

But for scenarios where you anticipate a planned raid/burglary attempt, letting the perps THINK they’ve spotted your perimeter syst. and bypassed it but having a more discrete 2nd system could be a nice touch. Not sure how that would work, but I like the idea.

I like the low tech versions with pebbles in a tin can. Another version: bottles that clink when wire is disturbed? But seems like false positives from wind and such might make that less effective.

 
Comment by Schneb
2013-02-03 10:21:20

forgot this bit: I know someone with an old pneumatic system like serving stations used to use, for a driveway in a rural setting. Let’s them know when someone’s arriving with a nice ‘ding! ding!’ and the grandkids/great-grandkids love to jump on it as a special old-timey game/toy experience, too.

Might be a good obvious/’decoy’ bit of security if a secondary system was also in use.

 
2013-06-09 15:24:03

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Comment by Kimberley
2013-08-01 00:52:25

You don’t have to hit the gym for two and three hours each day to lose weight, but it does help to squeeze in 30 minutes of physical activity each day. Anyone who dares to make a closer inspection will find the underlying difference. That way, the actual process will end up being much less frustrating and, for the majority of people, enjoyable.

 
Comment by Jim
2014-09-30 14:35:16

Some solid advice here for home security.Since I live in a country with strict gun control looking after my family and home has to be top priority. Thankfully only the criminals have the guns now! 🙂

 
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